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if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting is that mitt romney has been all over the place in what he. >> no, he hasn't. >> you can't trust him. just yesterday he said something else. when it comes down to it. they are issues that are challenging. >> for obama to go back to the bill clinton days. bill clinton worked with republicanns, president obama has not. >> he tried to work with republicans. >> one more question i want to ask you both. >> sure. >> what about the undecided vores? that is what they aimed for. who won the undecided vote. >> mitt romney did. independents are result oriented and mitt romney said this is how it worked in the past and going to be done. >> i think independents are undecided if they had the second and third
if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting is that mitt romney has been all over the place in what he. >> no, he hasn't. >> you can't trust...
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tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, tha
tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans...
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mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner.
mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today....
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this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership and management. and romney is a leader in obama tried to manage this thing. >> it's an interesting point. >> this is a kind of -- . >> this is a competition between style and substance. have you to have something of substance to run a country like this and hold everyone together for the common good. and style, obviously hasn't worked for the last four years. >> houchl you thought -- how many of you thought romney exceeded your kpekt stations? how many of you thought obama fell short of your kpekt stations? what advice? are you moving towards obama? >> obama? be more on his game about showing the non
this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership...
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this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and it will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15- minute segments with the first question and then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment semtex or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission for the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government and the governing with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates also have to- minute closing statements. there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applause] revi >> welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, a segment one. let's start with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would
this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and it will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15- minute segments with the first question and then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment semtex or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. for the record, they were not submitted for approval to...
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when we asked debate watchers their opinion of president obama before the debate, after the debate, favorable, unfavorable, unchanged essentially, and the same for mitt romney, unchanged. mitt romney, 55% favorable. high for him. so while they may have believed mitt romney won the debate, the question is whether it chaz changed their attitude toward mitt mitt romney. >> first of all, that sample i think we'll find out that sample was more than just a few points more republican. i have never seen a poll like that. the second thing is, you got to say the idea is that you moved the needle to favorability. -- 65% said he won it. and if you look at the issue of distinctions in a sample that seemed to me to be a few points more republican, i'm now -- and people say, yes, he won the debate. everybody here says he won the debate. i'm not sure if the payoffill be that huge. >> we don't know the payoff yet. one way or the other. the sample sounds like it's skews. but it's worth noting that cbs took a poll tonight of undecideds, and had 2-1 romney winning. we have two polls out there. we'll se
when we asked debate watchers their opinion of president obama before the debate, after the debate, favorable, unfavorable, unchanged essentially, and the same for mitt romney, unchanged. mitt romney, 55% favorable. high for him. so while they may have believed mitt romney won the debate, the question is whether it chaz changed their attitude toward mitt mitt romney. >> first of all, that sample i think we'll find out that sample was more than just a few points more republican. i have...
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president obama and mitt romney will begin their debate debating the issues. pbs is moderating. >> facing off this first presidential debate is just beginning. this live picture. waiting for the challenger mitt romney who will face off against barack obama. we have team coverage. kron 4 news at 6:00 p.m. begins now. (male announer) live from the kron 4 news station, this is the kron 4 news. >> we have team coverage. and we are going to begin with catherine heenan. she has been on the >> showing the motorcade but the talking today it was handled by the circuits. romney. handled by the circuits. >> you know what, myou have five boys you have good arguments kills just go with that. , bill clinton was on after -- goal with that. just go with that. >> nobody could have finished this damage in this amount of for years. however his plan is better in the short term and long term. >>catherine: this is particularly good for the challenger that has the proverbial level playing field that with the incumbent. in any of and they suggest that the candidate will lay out a cle
president obama and mitt romney will begin their debate debating the issues. pbs is moderating. >> facing off this first presidential debate is just beginning. this live picture. waiting for the challenger mitt romney who will face off against barack obama. we have team coverage. kron 4 news at 6:00 p.m. begins now. (male announer) live from the kron 4 news station, this is the kron 4 news. >> we have team coverage. and we are going to begin with catherine heenan. she has been on...
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i don't think it was the best debate performance for president obama. i agree with you we'll have to see how the specifics on the substantive issues settle in as people reflect on them. but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting president obama, and i think he is going to win, but i don't think this was his best night. >> cenk: governor grandholm? [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i'm sad to say that i agree, and i really really am sad to say that i agree, because i so wanted to be wrong about thinking that romney was going to come out swinging. i think the president -- he was right on facts, but there were opportunities that were missed. so the not saying -- not hitting back on the $716 billion was a missed opportunity. i know the fact checkers -- >> al gore: and romney said it five times. >> cenk: or six times. >> jennifer: and there was stuff about cayman islands that would have been mentioned. all of that. but if you look at what is happening on line the fact checkers -- there is style
i don't think it was the best debate performance for president obama. i agree with you we'll have to see how the specifics on the substantive issues settle in as people reflect on them. but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting president obama, and i think he is going to win, but i don't think this was his best night. >> cenk: governor grandholm? [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i'm sad to say that i agree, and i...
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between president barack obama and the republican nominee mitt romney. this debate in the next three are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be 615-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question then open discussion for the remainder of the segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on questions via the internet and other means. i made the final selections. they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments will be free on the economy and one each on health care, the role of garment, and governing. there will be an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both will have two-minute closing statements. the audience has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, or other noisy distracting things so we may concentrate on what the candidates have to say. there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applaus
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i thought it was the malaise debate for president obama. but mitt romney came at him from the left on several instances. on the dodd-frank issue, you let the big banks remain too big. like he cares. >> that's the etch-a-sketch-ificatoin. >> eliot: why didn't the president say, how are you going to keep them small? he didn't take him to task. he didn't challenge him. >> al gore: he also blamed obama implicitly for the fact that the dodd-frank regulations have not been put into effect for two years. the lobbyist on slot is responsible for that. >> cenk: i believe his top eight funners are all banks. so for mitt romney to pretend that he wants to limit the size of banks is the biggest joke. >> jennifer: name one answer that you thought that the president handled well. >> cenk: i thought he did a good job on medicare again, left the 716 unanswered there. but on the issue of medicare i think a lot of people might have sat at home -- and this might be a more important issue than anything else, especially when you look at florida. when he said loo
i thought it was the malaise debate for president obama. but mitt romney came at him from the left on several instances. on the dodd-frank issue, you let the big banks remain too big. like he cares. >> that's the etch-a-sketch-ificatoin. >> eliot: why didn't the president say, how are you going to keep them small? he didn't take him to task. he didn't challenge him. >> al gore: he also blamed obama implicitly for the fact that the dodd-frank regulations have not been put into...
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the stage for the first of three presidential debates. both candidates have spent most the cameras to prepare for tonight's debate. for governor romney, he has logged plenty of debate time during the gop primaries but he has not gone head-to-head the presidency untillnow. tonight's face-off will focus on domessic policy, including health care, the role of governments, and the number one issue on voters' minds, the economy. you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the unemployment rate and the national debt. keep in mind with early voting under way in 10 states already, many americans have already cast their ballots. still governor romney and presideet obama have plenty of opportunity to hurt or help their campaign in the next nine minutes. no cheering, no. now, the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> good evening from maaness arena at the university of denver in denver colorado. i am jim lehrer of pbs news hour, and i welcome the new to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president obama, the democratic nomi
the stage for the first of three presidential debates. both candidates have spent most the cameras to prepare for tonight's debate. for governor romney, he has logged plenty of debate time during the gop primaries but he has not gone head-to-head the presidency untillnow. tonight's face-off will focus on domessic policy, including health care, the role of governments, and the number one issue on voters' minds, the economy. you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the...
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debate is an hour and a half. our coverage continues afterward. let's go to candy in the debate hall. wolf, to you. >> anderson, thanks very much. i want to remind our viewers, at the bottom of the screen, squiggly lines, we have a focus group of undecided colorado voters, they are watching, what they like in the debate, don't like in the debate. a lot of squiggly lines, you will see how they are reacting. the only place you will see that kind of undecided voter react. we're standing by, jim lehrer is the moderator, getting ready to ask the first question as a result of a flip of a coin, the president of the united states will get the first answer and the last word will go to mitt romney. here is jim lehrer. >> good evening at the magnus arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs "news hour," and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama, democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, republican nominee. the debates are sponsored by the comm
debate is an hour and a half. our coverage continues afterward. let's go to candy in the debate hall. wolf, to you. >> anderson, thanks very much. i want to remind our viewers, at the bottom of the screen, squiggly lines, we have a focus group of undecided colorado voters, they are watching, what they like in the debate, don't like in the debate. a lot of squiggly lines, you will see how they are reacting. the only place you will see that kind of undecided voter react. we're standing by,...
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great of the debater. it was more mccain making gaffes then but retail politics with energizing crowds it could be the winning formula. they are close in the polls already. neil: do think he got under the president's skin? he does not like to be challenged. there was the snide comment to jim lehrer. it was flippant but it had the notion he can be too sensitive. >> the republicans have a problem in 2011 with 40 debates. obama has not had anybody challenging him. pelosi and reader not or his administration. the first time in republican could get at him mano a mano. the president seem perturbed that he had to respond and he is president of united states. i agree with you. neil: you should pursue this history thing. i think the you have a future. you work the graveyard shift and i am proud of view. neil: it is my i feel that way. we will crunched some numbers the former u.s. comptroller says if we don't get a handle on this we will all go down. after this. with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth m
great of the debater. it was more mccain making gaffes then but retail politics with energizing crowds it could be the winning formula. they are close in the polls already. neil: do think he got under the president's skin? he does not like to be challenged. there was the snide comment to jim lehrer. it was flippant but it had the notion he can be too sensitive. >> the republicans have a problem in 2011 with 40 debates. obama has not had anybody challenging him. pelosi and reader not or...
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romney batters, bam, barak obama in first debate direct mitt. you look at twitter, you look at the instar poll, it's clear, mitt romney had a banner night last night. >> brian: a lot of people on the left feel the same way, from james carville to even van jones weighed in and said that the president got hammered. joining us, a man that went shoulder to shoulder with the president before he was president, senator john mccain. senator, your review of what you saw for 90 minutes? >> if it were a fight, they would have stopped it. [ laughter ] >> steve: in the first round. >> maybe give him three or four rounds. >> gretchen: you actually twittered that. >> yeah. i think that it's very clear that the reason why i think this has significant impact is one, americans saw the real mitt romney as opposed to the hundreds of millions of dollars attack ads that have been portraying him as, you know, all the things that they have done. also by the way, i guess i heard that 25% said that they thought that obama won. it's like that 11% of congress that approve
romney batters, bam, barak obama in first debate direct mitt. you look at twitter, you look at the instar poll, it's clear, mitt romney had a banner night last night. >> brian: a lot of people on the left feel the same way, from james carville to even van jones weighed in and said that the president got hammered. joining us, a man that went shoulder to shoulder with the president before he was president, senator john mccain. senator, your review of what you saw for 90 minutes? >> if...
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between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means, but i made the final selections, and for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government, and governing, with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, h
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and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too professorial, too diffident, he didn't have that elmpathic quality. >> and when people are having a good time, you like them. we're having a good time. do you like us? we are now just a couple of minutes away from the big show. this is my favorite night in politics. this is part of the reason we are excited here. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. we're right back. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development com
and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he...
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before the debate 30% only 30% said governor romney did. 53% said president obama did. but look at after the debate. romney's numbers almost doubled to 63%. president obama's did move up slightly. he still lead there but romney gained a lot of ground here, scott. >> pelley: anthony, thank you very much. of course as we said this is a little over 400 people who had not made up their minds on which candidate they would support. but john dickerson what do you make of those numbers. >> those are the people mitt romney needs to talk to. these are the people who are -- they may have voted for president obama in 2008, they like him but they just are disappointed and the transaction mitt romney needed to start tonight was saying to those people it's okay to leave him and i'm a safe place to go. that jump in the number of people who thought he cared about regular people, that -- if they could have written a perfect script that's the one the romney people would have written. somebody wrote in to me today and said just after the debate said the governor of massachusetts showed up.
before the debate 30% only 30% said governor romney did. 53% said president obama did. but look at after the debate. romney's numbers almost doubled to 63%. president obama's did move up slightly. he still lead there but romney gained a lot of ground here, scott. >> pelley: anthony, thank you very much. of course as we said this is a little over 400 people who had not made up their minds on which candidate they would support. but john dickerson what do you make of those numbers. >>...
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after last night's debate, president obama holding a campaign rally denver. vice president biden campaigning in iowa. mitt romney and his campaign vice president paul ryan are campaigning together today in virginia. while in denver for last night's debate, we talked with some students about their views on the election. >> the issue for me has to do with women's rights. and rights for all women, not just wealthy women. and the supreme court will go a long way to make sure that those are secured for generations to come. >> i was interested in the economy. >> the biggest issue for me is getting a job after i'm done for school. i pay $55,000 a year to come here. i need a job to pay for that. >> it's important to me to make sure i am able to get a job. >> there are many issues we need to focus on. >> video-based social media service similar to a tweet. last night's debate is the most tweeted event in history, topping this year's republican and democratic conventions. a look at last night's debate. the debate was held at the university of denver. it was spoke focus
after last night's debate, president obama holding a campaign rally denver. vice president biden campaigning in iowa. mitt romney and his campaign vice president paul ryan are campaigning together today in virginia. while in denver for last night's debate, we talked with some students about their views on the election. >> the issue for me has to do with women's rights. and rights for all women, not just wealthy women. and the supreme court will go a long way to make sure that those are...
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the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything different than he has been talkin talk within the reaf the white house for the past four years. >> it was too policy abstract, the president's presentation was. and, you know, the few times he did put a human face on it, as i mentioned, it was better. what i found interesting was who became the innocence by association figures? tip o'neill and ronald reagan were invoked by both sides. ( laughter ). and donald trump became the punching bag of small business. i just eye found that interesting. and of course bill clt was embraced not simply by the president but
the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything...
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and for the democrats, well, obama may have been rusty in the debate. he wasn't hurt too badly. we'll see how it plays out. but i think this was a strong night for mitt romney. we have three more debates to go. one with the vice-presidential candidates. two at the top of the ticket. and if you can keep this going, he may do himself some good. >> carl, you've been watching in trade. we saw an move in up in trade, the betting on obama versus romney. it actually -- >> about 9% down on the president. >> and up to 26% on governor romney. actually, larry kudlow with us as well. >> maria? >> yes, john? >> i want to say, i think you were right about the president being on the defensive. one of the things that came out of the two conventions is that the democrats, bill clinton helped president obama in this, shifted this from a referendum election on president obama's performance to a choice election. i think this -- the effect was to pull it back to a referendum election and put president obama on the defensive. he's the one with the record. and the american public is not in a great moo
and for the democrats, well, obama may have been rusty in the debate. he wasn't hurt too badly. we'll see how it plays out. but i think this was a strong night for mitt romney. we have three more debates to go. one with the vice-presidential candidates. two at the top of the ticket. and if you can keep this going, he may do himself some good. >> carl, you've been watching in trade. we saw an move in up in trade, the betting on obama versus romney. it actually -- >> about 9% down on...
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the obama campaign before the debate was putting out that president obama was watching football. they wanted to give the impression that he wasn't obsessed with the debate. he wasn't going to be overprepared to project an air of copy dense and lower expectations. in this instance they may have made a mistake doing that because the president played down to most those expectations. bill: debate number two, do you think should wipe the floor again? it's a contrary view, but is that an effect? >> i don't think pope he is still president and you will have a media narrative that want the president to recover here that's going to want the president to do better than he did this time. i think the president will have a difficult task. on the one hand he's got to be tougher and challenge mitt romney. on the other, he's still president. he can't seem to be beneath the office of the presidency. bill: thank you. steven hayes in washington. there is so much more to talk about and we shall with martha. martha: moral issues came up also how governor romney tide this to the economic debate. also,
the obama campaign before the debate was putting out that president obama was watching football. they wanted to give the impression that he wasn't obsessed with the debate. he wasn't going to be overprepared to project an air of copy dense and lower expectations. in this instance they may have made a mistake doing that because the president played down to most those expectations. bill: debate number two, do you think should wipe the floor again? it's a contrary view, but is that an effect?...